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The Ages in Ephesians

Posted by John on February 23, 2016 at 9:10 PM Comments comments (4)

In all wisdom and insight 9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.

 

Paul opens his epistle to the Ephesians with a clear statement about God's purpose in the ages.

 

An administration suitable to the fulness of times. What does that mean?

 

Let's break it down a little bit.

 

The word administration is translated from the Greek word "oikonomian"

 

The word is translated variously as "stewardship"; "dispensation"; "management"; and literally means "household management" or "house law".

 

The word fullness is translated from the Greek word "pleroma".

 

Significantly, pleroma means complete fullness, and is the word used in 1 Cor 10:26, "The earth is the Lord's and all it contains"(NASB)(and the fulness thereof- KJV)

 

There are many other verses where pleroma means virtually all, but 1 Cor 10:26 is sufficient for this writing.

 

The "summing up" is a word that is only used twice in the NT, anakephalaiōsasthai

 

In the KJV it is translated "gathering together into one".

 

God's plan, executed over a dispensation that includes the completion of all times, is the gathering together into one of all things in Christ.

 

How often have you heard Ephesians 1:9-11 taught in church or on the radio or TV?

 

Not likely very often, if ever.

 

Let's break it down a little further.

 

"In all wisdom and insight He made known unto us the mystery of His will"....

 

Paul explains that this "gathering together of all things into one in Christ" is the mystery of the Father's will, and that He has made it known unto us.…."according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him"....

 

The Father's plan is a "kind intention", the KJV calls it His "good pleasure". The Greek word is "eudokia", eu meaning "good" and dokia meaning "will, desire, pleasure". This is the same word used in the angelic proclamation concerning Messiah's birth, "peace on earth, good will(eudokia) towards men".

 

So, God's purpose in Christ is a "kind intention" with a view to, or from a perspective including the summing up of all things in Christ, whether things in heaven or things in earth.

 

The word for "all things" is "panta", a tense of the word "pas", which means all, inclusive of everything. Pas/panta is translated "all things"; "all men"; "everything"- and in over 1200 occurrences simply means all. Paul further amplifies the "allness" of this "summing up" by adding, "whether things in heaven or in earth".

 

The scriptures speak of time in several ways. Seasons(kairos), appointed times(chronos), generations(geneas), generations of generations, ages(aion), ages past and ages to come.

 

In this introduction in Ephesians Paul speaks of the totality of times as an administration of God's purpose in Christ- to gather into one all things.

 

Paul makes the same statement in the introduction of the epistle to the Colossians in slightly different terms. In Colossians Paul is much more definitive as to what "all" is.

 

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. 19 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

 

The all things that Jesus will reconcile is the same all things that He created. As John says in John 1, "All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being".

 

According to Paul the Father made His fulness(pleroma) dwell in Jesus so that He could reconcile all things to Himself through the blood of His cross. This is "His kind intention which He purposed in Him" in Eph 1, the blood of His cross being the means by which He will gather all things together into one in Christ- reconciling all.

 

One of the problems with breaking the scriptures up into chapters and verses(there are benefits to it but problems as well) is that we tend to break up continuous thoughts as if they were unrelated. The whole epistle to the Ephesians is not all that long. The continuity and integrity of thought is incredible. Paul tells us the mystery of God's will is the summing up of all things in Christ in verses 9-11 of the first chapter- as a general statement about the purpose of God through the fullness of time. The He prays….

 

That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

 

God has exalted Christ above every power in this age and in the age to come. Continuing His purpose through the ages, the exaltation of Christ is key to the dispensation of the fulness of times- as it is written in 1 Corinthians 15….

 

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Paul again plays this glorious theme. Christ has been exalted over all so that all may be gathered unto Him, into Him, even as He prophesied, "If I am lifted up from the earth I will draw all men unto me"(John 12:32).

 

Jesus has been lifted up from the earth, His cross and His throne are inextricably sown together.

 

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.(Phil 2)

 

Because Jesus descended furthest, He ascended highest. "No greater love has any man than this". Because He descended in love, He ascends in love, reigns in love, and will gather all things into His love. His corrections and punishments fulfill the purpose of His love, His eyes, as flames of fire and His face, like the sun shining in its strength, will ultimately penetrate every hiding place and pierce every heart until every knee bows and every tongue confesses that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

 

People are generally taught that God will force every knee to bow and every tongue to confess just before He throws them into "hell". Really though, when you read Ephesians 1, Colossians 1 and 1 Cor 15 it becomes apparent that Christ's cross will reconcile all and His throne will subject all so that God will become all in all. Death will be done away with, because death is the penalty for sin, and when all things are gathered into one in Christ, there will be no more need for death, because God will be all in all, "everything in everyone." This is YHWH's purpose in the ages.

 

32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!34 For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who became His counselor? 35 Or who has first given to Him that it might be paid back to him again? 36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever(eis tous aiona-to/thruout the ages). Amen.

 

Notice the similarity of language in all these texts. All things. Unto the ages. Fulness.

 

When we read the words "For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things", we are seeing a summation of the wise counsel of YHWH, whose glory throughout the ages is the gathering together into one of all things in Christ.

 

Peter speaks of this purpose as it is to begin in earnest in the age to come in one of the first messages after Pentecost,

 

Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; 20 and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you,21 whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.

 

Before we finish we will see that this purpose of gathering all things together into one has been prophesied from ancient times by the prophets. It is the "good news"(euaggelion) of God's "good pleasure"(eudokia). His kind intention towards all. Again, the language of Peter is in keeping with Paul's- who is at this time not even a disciple yet, but is rather about to become a chief adversary of the gospel. Peter is proclaiming that with the return of Messiah, in the age to come, the period of the restoration of all things will begin. A period prophesied by Isaiah for instance…..

 

The Lord of hosts will prepare a lavish banquet for all peoples on this mountain;

A banquet of aged wine, choice pieces with marrow,

And refined, aged wine.

And on this mountain He will swallow up the covering which is over all peoples,

Even the veil which is stretched over all nations.

8 He will swallow up death for all time,

And the Lord God will wipe tears away from all faces,

And He will remove the reproach of His people from all the earth;

For the Lord has spoken.

9 And it will be said in that day,

"Behold, this is our God for whom we have waited that He might save us.

This is the Lord for whom we have waited;

Let us rejoice and be glad in His salvation."

 

Paul spoke of this veil in 2 Cor chapters 3 & 4

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 

Isaiah has prophesied that this veil will be removed from over all people. Paul states in 2 Cor 3:

 

But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. 15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; 16 but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

 

Today the veil remains intact over many Christians who read the Bibe ut do not understand God's purpose through the ages to come- or even see that such ages exist. But see what Paul says in Ephesians chapter 2, in one of the most quoted portions of scripture there is.

 

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, andseated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace inkindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

 

We were saved by grace to become His workmanship, conformed to the image of Christ, created in Him for good works prepared from beforehand (protoimazo-predestined) that we should walk in them. As Paul says in the first chapter, just a few sentences earlier, "In Him 11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory."

 

His glory is the gathering together of all things into one in Christ. This "inheritance" unto which "we who were the first to hope in Chist" are predestined to is the "surpassing kindness of His grace" that will be showered upon us "in the ages to come"- the "good works prepared for us beforehand that we should walk in them", the continuing work of "gathering all things into one in Christ".

 

In the first 3 chapters of Ephesians we have the "administration suitable to the fulness of times"(Eph 1:10); the "this age and age to come"(Eph 1:21); the "ages to come"(Eph 2:7)

 

In Eph 3 Paul states, "To me, the very least of all saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ, 9 and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things; 10 so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places.

 

This is the same "mystery of His will" from Eph 1:9, the same "wisdom, the same "administration"- it is the gathering together of all things into one in Christ.

 

In Eph 4 Paul states, of Christ's exaltation, "He who descended is also He who ascended "that He might fill all things"(Eph 4:10).

 

All of this is consistent with the opening thought, the introduction to God's purpose in Ephesians chapter 1. Then, as we see in Colossians 1:15-20, 1Cor 15:23-28, Phil 2:9-11; Romans 11:32-36- it becomes increasingly clear that God's purpose in Christ is to become all-in-all though the ages past and the ages to come. It also becomes clear that we, as the first to hope in Christ will receive as our inheritance, the joy of serving in the restoration of all things in the ages to come.

 

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

 

The whole creation groans. The earth is about to yield up its fruit. The first fruits, those that are His at His coming. Their inheritance, their mission, the gathering together into one of all things in Christ, the restoration of all things, the glory of God to be revealed in all the earth as the waters cover the seas.

 

For by the word of truth He has begotten us a kind of first fruits of His creation.(James 1)

 

If any man be in Christ Jesus He is a new creation, old things pass away, behold, all things become new.(1 Cor 5)

 

5 And He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." And He *said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true."6 Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.(Rev 21)"

 

Jesus is the beginning and the end of God's plan for the ages, "For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be the glory to the ages."

 

As Paul says in Ephesians 3…

 

Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us, 21 to Him be the glory among the ecclesia and in Christ Jesus to all generations of the age of the ages(aionos ton aionon). Amen.

 

Does the Salvation of All Fulfill God's Justice?

Posted by John on February 4, 2013 at 9:20 PM Comments comments (0)

In my opinion, The only justice God requires, ultimately, is that we SEE HIM CLEARLY. Then we will SEE CLEARLY what we are and what we have done so that we can SEE CLEARLY what He has done for us. Then we will SEE CLEARLY whether we ought to(if we can) make restitution and DECLARE FULLY our culpability and REJOICE that God has FULLY FORGIVEN US. Since no one can pay for their sins and no punishment can re-mediate sins and no one can fix the fissure in the relationship between man and God but God- who has done it through the sacrifice of His Son, JUSTICE IS ACKNOWLEDGING the sufficiency of that sacrifice for our sins AND FOR ANYONE WHO HAS SINNED AGAINST US. This to me is REPENTANCE AND FAITH TOWARDS GOD, from among the the foundation doctrines of Hebrews 6.

 

Any and all punishment/kolassis/ or fire/pur meted out, whether many stripes or few, is not to provide payment or to equal the balances- THAT CANNOT BE DONE BY PUNISHMENT OR WORKS OR RESTITUTION.

 

Any and all punishment/kolassis or fire/pur meted it out is ONLY TO HELP ONE SEE, to open the eyes of the blind, to consume the veil that covers the eyes of the hearts of the adversaries, operating in the form of bringing light that is fire to darkness/flesh/veils.

 

Once the person/being SEES, JUSTICE IS RENDERED. Anyone who does not glorify God in the moment of their conviction, has not seen. Thus, into the lake of fire(now or then, same principle).

 

But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

(2Co 3:14-16)

 

Those who have not turned to the Lord remain veiled/blinded/in darkness.

 

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

(2Co 3:18)

 

Those who have turned to the Lord are being JUSTIFIED from glory to glory, from vision to deeper vision as the veils are removed in progressive sanctification thru the spirit of grace.

 

 

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

(2Co 4:3-6)

 

Those who have not seen are lost. We are the lamp set upon the Lampstand, the City set on a hill. Carrying about in our bodies the suffering of Christ "Forgive them Father, they don't know what they are doing.....If I be lifted up i will draw all men unto me." The darker it gets the more clearly we will shine- For God who has commanded the light to shine out of the darkness has shined in our hearts to give the light........

 

and the earth was without form and void and darkness covered the face of the deep, and the Spirit hovered over the face of the waters, and the voice of the lord said, 'LET THERE BE LIGHT, and there was light and god saw that it was good, and there was evening and morning, the first day :o)

 

this is the FIRST DAY. Seeing Jesus crucified(evening) and raised from the dead(morning) to conquer sin and death. Repentence(evening, experiencing the revelation of the cross) and faith towards God(morning, the all sufficiency of God in our lives)

Why Jesus Died

Posted by John on February 19, 2012 at 1:50 AM Comments comments (1)

Why Jesus Died

"If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me".

Jesus was confused into thinking all men would be drawn unto Him. He was under the illusion that His death was sufficient to declare God's love to "all". He did not have our theology, and the clearer understanding of two thousand years of the re-interpretation of His words by men of learning and religious instruction.

"For so it pleased the Father to cause all the fulness of deity to dwell in him(Jesus) and to reconcile all things to Himself(the Father) by the blood of His cross".(from Colossians 1:16-20)

Paul was confused into believing that God Himself put the fulness of Himself in His Son so that the sacrifice of His son would suffice to "reconcile" all- almost as if God thought that the blood of His Beloved Son was worth more than all and even the most heinous sins of mankind.

John was similarly confused

  My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;  and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.(1Jn 2:1,2)

For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. (1Cor 15:21,22)

Although modern theologians say all does not mean all, over and over again the writers of the scriptures made it clear that all meant all to them. The fact is that they saw a different outcome for the judgment of God than eternal torment or annihilation. They saw every enemy converted and God filling all in all.

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death. For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

(1Co 15:22-28)

They saw every knee and every tongue submitting to the Lord Jesus and giving glory to God.

For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

(Php 2:9-11)

John, in the delusion of his ecstasy beyond the veil saw the fulfillment of this strange vision that these ignorant and unlearned men believed inand proclaimed.

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing." And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.

(Rev 5:11-14)

When Paul explained "all" to the Colossians, he wrote the following verses.

And He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

(Col 1:15-20)

That sounds like the same "all" of John's revelation!

Maybe the learned men of today have unlearned a mystery. Something hidden from them in their religion, but revealed to those early "children" of God.

He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.

(Eph 1:9-12)

Paul was under the disturbing delusion that the mystery of the gospel was the "summing up", or as the New American Standard has it, "the gathering together into one(anakephalaiomai) of all things(pas) in Christ".

He believed that our inheritance was participation in an ages long plan that God instituted before the creation to reveal Himself to all. He thought that judgment was corrective and limited in scope to advancing the "kind intention" of the one who causes all things to work according tothe counsel of his will. He thought that God would demonstrate His kindness towards us in Christ the ages to come(Eph 2:7), as participants by inheritance in a plan to"reconcile all things to Himself". He saw the end of the subjection of all enemies to be the beginning of an age wherein God would be "all in all".  Look what Paul said about our part in this glorious plan, in Romans 8.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.

(Rom 8:18-22)

Paul seemed to think that God had something to do with planning how all this began, and we would have something to do with how all this ends. Paul, John and Peter believed that the end of all things would be the reconciliation and restoration of the whole creation.

"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[c] by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.

(Act 2:22-24)

"But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.

(Act 3:18-21)

A Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world. All things were created through him and he is before all things. For so it pleased the Father to make all the fulness dwell in him and to reconcile all things to Himself through the blood of his cross. This is why Jesus died. He said it himself- "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" and, "If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me". He said "Behold, I am making all things new!".

Behold. See. Understand. The kingdom of heaven is like a measure of leaven hidden in three bushels of meal till the whole things is leavened. A mustard sees that grows into a tree that fills the whole earth, with room among its branches for all of the bird of the air.

Perhaps those who were first to believe, who received the gospel by a direct revelation from the Lord Jesus Christ understood more than we today, 2000 years and ten thousand denominations removed from that first fresh pure breath of God.

There will be ages. There will be separations. There will be judgments. But the end of all these things, is the reconciliation of all, and the fire will burn only that which refuses to love, until all love God and God is all in all. The blood of Jesus purchased this, and we who were the first to believe have an inheritance in the administration of the fulness of times, and a place of joy and fulfillment as priests of God in the ages to come.

And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.

(Rev 21:6-7)

This is why we suffer with Him. This is why we "Take up our cross and follow". He is the ultimate minister of reconciliation and we are preists with him. He is not ashamed to call us "brothers and sisters".

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation. (2Co 5:17-19)

This is the Word. God was "in Christ" reconciling the world unto Himself. The "whole creation" groans together with us in these "birth pangs", they just don't all know it yet.

 Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we received mercy, we do not lose heart, but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but by the manifestation of truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

(2Co 4:1-6)

By grace are you saved, through faith, and that is a gift, it did not come from you. God has shut up all in disobedience, that He might be merciful to all. Join the ministry of reconciliation- do not lose heart. The gospel of eternal torment is a false gospel. It is an adulteration of the Word of God. All men will be saved in the end of the ages. When the administration of God is fulfilled and time shall be at an end, death will be swallowed up by immortality and God will be "ALL IN ALL".

Are you so sure that your teachers have given you the truth? Are these are the ravings of madmen and heretics? Consider that all of these scriptures are out of your BIBLE- and consider these words of Paul the apostle, in closing,

For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.

Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!

 How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!

For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN?

 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

(Rom 11:32-36)

 

  

 

 

Does God Do What He Wants?

Posted by John on February 19, 2012 at 1:25 AM Comments comments (0)

Sooner or later "God will have all men to be saved" (1 Timothy 2:4)

It is God's "pleasure" that all mankind be saved.

And "God is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will" (Ephesians 1:11).

Change it to read "in accord with the counsel of what He wants" if you like.

Because God says

"My counsel shall stand.

I will do all my pleasure

(the saving of all mankind is part of the pleasure that God wants)

Yea I have spoken it.

I will also bring it to pass.

I have purposed it.

I will also do it."

Isaiah 46:10,11

Job 23:13 "But He stands alone, and who can oppose Him?

He does whatever he pleases.

(the saving of all mankind is part of what He wants that pleases Him).

Isaiah 55:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:

It will not return to me empty,

but will accomplish what I desire

and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

(the saving of all mankind is part of all of which God desires or wants)

So we see God does all His pleasure, He does whatever He pleases, and His word accomplishes that which He desires.

His pleasure, that which He desires and pleases Him is what He wants.

His will = What He wants

What does He want?

THE SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND

Why will it happen?

Because God Himself will see to it that it gets done.

Any cooperation towards our salvation is the result, not the cause of God laying hold on us by His saving grace and causing Jesus to be "choice" in our heart, just like it was in the case of Lydia and Saul of Tarsus.


Is the Bible just a revelation of God?

Posted by John on February 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM Comments comments (0)

 Statement:

 " I have seen God, and have heard from him, and cannot make the connection between him that I love and the god pictured here in the Bible. They seem like opposing forces and it doesn't make any sense to me."

Response:

The Bible is a record of the actions of God and men. Remember, the earth was without form and void, darkness covered the face of the deep, so God said, "Let there be light". Chaos, darkness, sin and death- these things are the product of the mystery of free will. God made man master of the earth before he fell, and He did not revoke that mastery after man fell. Therefore, as we (mankind as a whole) learn that all wills must eventually yield to love, and that forgiveness is the highest form of love- love will eventually overwhelm all hatred and meanness of men and all creatures. As the light shines into the darkness and the dawn begins to rise, we see that God has been progressively leading us from the death and chaos of self centered life into the love and beauty of a life poured out.

Jesus, on the cross, a life poured out..... A fountain flowing from his wounds, becoming a river that will fill EVERY BEING IN TIME AND SPACE with the outpoured life- all becoming a universal OCEAN of joy and love. Light is fire to darkness. Our God is a consuming fire. The fire is consuming the chaos and redeeming the whole creation into the love of God. (Romans 8:18-23; Acts 3:19; Ephesians 1:9-11; Colossians 1:16-21; 1Corinthians 15:22-28; Romans 11:32-36; Revelation 5:13; Revelation 21:5).

It was only by the gift of a life, laid own for me, (let there be light) that I could learn that the beauty of giving is worth the letting go of my life(without form and void)- entrusting it, enfolding it, into His- receiving it back again (resurrected in his image, day by day)multiplied many times- in love- not in things or fame or power or glory.

"Behold I am making ALL THINGS NEW" is ......

THE FOUNDATIONAL STATEMENT OF THE WHOLE BIBLE.

That's where you see God in Christ and what His plan always was, is and always will be.

He gave us a world and a life to do what we will with it...... we have been learning that the only thing worth doing is love. Love makes new- that is the plan and Christ is the SEED of it, LEAVEN THAT IS SPREADING THROUGH OUT ALL THINGS TILL ALL BE LEAVENED.

Lift up the lid a little, if you look at the world through purple glasses, you can't see the beauty of the colors all around- maybe there is a secret thread of beauty that is running through all of the futility you see in the Bible, like a treasure hidden in a field. You can't see its value until you understand where it is coming from(a Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, "LET THERE BE LIGHT"), and where it is going to- "BEHOLD(see, perceive, be illuminated within) I AM MAKING ALL THINGS NEW"!!!

This love unfolded is like a rose whose thorns are all one sees who has never beheld the bloom nor smelled the wonderful aroma as it opens in the spring.

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Lake of Fire

Posted by John on June 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM Comments comments (0)

  I have been studying the relationship between fire and light, and how light consumes darkness- becoming fire to darkness. "And the light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it". Everything that is hidden will be brought to light. Death is the veil that covers the peoples and God says, "On this mountain I will remove the veil that covers the peoples"."If our gospel is veiled it is veiled to those who are perishing"(apollumi -lost, being destroyed by death until light shines out of darkness/chaos).......For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (Christ uncovered is life)(2Co 4:1-6)

 

The devil and his angels will be brought to exposure, being held in the "fire/light/love/life" presence of God until they bow the knee and confess(Phil 2:10 ;1 Cor 15:22-28. I think this is already begun....

 

Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: (Eph 3:8-11)


This eternal purpose is clearly stated in Paul's introductory statements to the  Ephesian church- refers back to it several times in the letter.


Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.(Eph 1:8-12)

 

 


 

God is by no means done with His church.... You might say, WE are the lake of fire-- HOLY SMOKES!!!

 

Know ye not that ye shall judge angels?

 

But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

(1Co 14:24-25)

 

WoW! What Awaits Us!!!

 

...he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, that hath been mingled unmixed in the cup of His anger, and he shall be tormented(touch stone) in fire(pur) and(kai-even) brimstone(thieon god-fire) before the holy messengers(us), and before the Lamb, and the smoke of their torment doth go up to ages of ages(even as the smoke of Sodom and Gomrah's punishment rises as a monument to the ages); and they have no rest day and night, who are bowing before the beast and his image, also if any doth receive the mark of his name(for their is no rest for the wicked, until they bow the knee and find rest in Jesus....my interpretation).(Rev 14:10-11)

This is a spiritual picture of spiritual reality both in the NOW, TODAY and in the DAY that is dawning UPON ALL, the great DAY OF GOD, the LIGHT(let there be light) that SEPARATES out the darkness and brings FORM AND FRUITFULNESS where once all was WITHOUT FORM AND VOID;CHAOTIC;SMELLING OF DEATH.


As children of the day we must AWAKEN so that the LIGHT OF CHRIST WILL DAWN IN US. We must put on Christ. We must PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO THE PROPHETIC WORD like a Lamp(Thy word o Lord is a lamp to my feet) shining in a dark place till the DAY DAWNSand the MORNING STAR ARISES IN OUR HEARTS!

 

 

There is something coming in us that is "exceedingly and abundantly above and beyond all we could ask or even think!"

 

Eye has not seen nor ear heard, but the Spirit is making it known to us.

 

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. (Eph 2:6-7)

 

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

(Rev 21:5-7)

 

For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

(Rom 8:19-21)

 

Get ready to get BUSY brothers and sisters HAHA! Jesus is being uncovered IN US!

 

 

The Hidden Gospel of Jesus Christ

Posted by John on June 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM Comments comments (0)

Jesus spoke in parables, so that "seeing they might not perceive and hearing they might not understand". The idea that the gospel is open to all is refuted by the words of our Savior Himself. It is a treasure hid in a field for which one must "sell all" and then dig. It is a "pearl of exceeding value" for which one must trade in all previous treasure. It is concealed from the wise and the mighty and revealed, only unto babes. Mysteries hidden from the foundation of the world, says Jesus. This "mystery', Paul says, is the hidden wisdom, spoken of by the mature, those who use "spiritual words" to describe "spiritual realities". It is the mystery of the "summing up of all things in Christ" according to the Father's "kind intention" (eu-dokia, good will), proclaimed in the "good news" (eu-aggelion, gospel). It is what the angels declared to shepherds, singing "glad tidings"(eu aggelion, good news) of great joy......peace on earth, "good will"(eu-dokia) towards men. If our gospel, this precious good news is veiled, it is veiled towards those who are "apollumi"-lost, perishing(2 Cor 4:1-4), in whom the god of this world has blinded their eyes so that "they might not see, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, might shine on them". This "glorious gospel" is the "mystery of the kingdom"- a measure of leaven [b]hidden[/b] in three bushels of flour [b]until all is leavened [/b]. It is the "Good News" that all will be saved. It is the wisdom that the principalities and powers did not understand, as they buried the seed in the dirt(through murder/death) that would become a great tree filling the whole earth.

Who has known the mind of the Lord and who has been His counselor and who has given to Him that He should repay?! For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be the glory forever, AMEN!

While we are accused of spreading a false gospel, it is really the hidden gospel, the veiled gospel, the GLORIOUS GOSPEL of the reconciliation of all things through the blood of Jesus Christ(Col 1:16-21)(Acts 3:17), "whom the heavens must receive(hidden) until the period of the restitution of all things spoken of by all the prophets since the world began."  Praise The Lord for He Is GOOD! His Mercy ENDURES FOREVER!!!!!

 

 

 

You Say You See

Posted by John on May 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM Comments comments (0)

Jesus said to the Pharisees, Because you say you see, your sin remains. Jesus gives grace for ignorance, but not for arrogant blindness. Those who disembowel the word of God in the promotion of their own traditions are the blind leading the blind. They are stumbling into open graves with their followers. Understand- God has the greatest compassion for them and He cries out all day long, "Come, Let us reason together". The truth is like the sun or the rain, readily available to all. But those who are blind walk in darkness even when the sun is shining. We are told by them NOT to reason. We are told to TURN OFF our own moral compass. We are told to listen to the Pharisees of today even though in our hearts we may sense that something is wrong. But Jesus said to call no man "Teacher", "Rabbi", "Father". He said, "For you are all brothers and you have one Father". He said, "The Holy Spirit will take what is mine and give it to you". My conscience and my reason reject the idea of an erternal torment of masses on beings created by their tormentor. My conscience and my reason reject the annihilation of God's creation- and gues what? I have discovered that the Scriptures agree and the Holy Spirit teaches the "restitution of all things as spoken by all the prophets since the world began(Acts 3:19)". Jesus says,"Behold(perceive, understand), I am making ALL THINGS NEW".

The Potential Dangers of Systematic Theology

Posted by John on May 16, 2011 at 7:20 PM Comments comments (0)


Potential Problems with Systematic Theology -(The Logos is complete, but not completely understood)

1: Everybody has one

2: Once a systematic theology becomes set, it is rarely adjusted by adherents

   A)This results in closure to continuing revelation(Eph 1:17,18; 1Cor 2)

  B)Knowledge of the system becomes the end point rather than a launching point(Heb 5:12-6:3)

  C)Comprehensive knowledge of the system becomes confused with spiritual maturity(Romans 11:33-36,1 Cor 2:5-7)

  D)The system becomes petrified and as such becomes law- the letter kills the spirit gives life(Romans 2:20)

  E)The system is valued over love- knowledge puffs up, love edifies-builds up

  F)The system becomes an idol through which believers separate and exalt themselves over their brothers(James 3:13-17)

3: Systematic theology usually becomes an entrenched paradigm, a horizontally viewed perspective that limits understanding,

  A) When on the ground you can't see the forest for the trees

  B) When in the air the whole forest becomes visible, with all of its characteristics

  C) A change of perspective reveals previously unseen depths of reality

4: Systematic theology frequently insists on explaining in detail things,

  A) That are, as Paul said, ".....seen through a glass darkly"

  B) That, as John said, "...we know not yet what we shall be"

  C) That Jesus said are, "mysteries hidden from the foundation of the world"

5: Systematic theology is rarely systematic, but frequently full of exceptions caused by the prejudices and limited perspectives of organizations because....

  A) Members of systems fellowship primarily with one another (become ingrown)

  B) Members of systems rarely consult openly in free discussions with other viewpoints

  C) Members of systems have a personal stake in the preservation of the system that goes beyond "the love of the truth"

6: "The truth" is a person(Hebrews 1:1-3). The truth is expressed primarily in the character of that person, secondarily by the facts about that person

  A)"Today if you hear His voice harden not your heart"

  B)"I Am the way the truth and the life"

  C)We have these great and precious promises that we might "become partakers of the divine nature"(2 Peter 2:4; Romans 8:29)

  D) All word "dry up, all spirit "blow up", spirit and truth "grow up"

7: Our teachers ought to be those who have become partakers of the divine nature, which is the true maturity, rather than those who can lead us along a path of knowledge based "talking points" that are frequently imbalanced and misrepresentative of the character of God

  A) Sound doctrine is inclusive of the meekness and gentleness of the master

  B) The Pharisees crucified Jesus because He routinely violated their Systematic Theology

  C) Sound doctrine is inclusive of continuing prophetic enlightenment, bringing larger dimensions and greater perspective to the "letter"

    1) The Logos is complete, but it is not completely undestood

    2) Systematic theology often takes its stand on incomplete, partial revelation- thus binding the body from completion in the "spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God"

8: A godly systematic theology is balanced according to the priorities of God and open to and inclusive of challenge and adjustment (Galations chapter two)

(Act 17:10,11) They, when they arrived, went into the synagogue of the Jews. And these were more noble than those of Thessalonica, in that they received the Word with all readiness of mind and searched the Scriptures daily to see if those things were so.

Act 18:25-26 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord. And being fervent in the spirit, he spoke and taught the things of the Lord diligently, knowing only the baptism of John. And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. And Aquila and Priscilla heard him, and they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly.

 Even if correct, balanced and representative of the mind of Christ, systematic theology is not sufficient to remove the veil of darkness and empower the gospel of the revelation of Jesus as Deliverer, Lord and Messiah, unto the world.

1Co 2:1-11 And I, brothers, when I came to you, did not come with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. But, we speak wisdom among those who are perfect(mature); yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the rulers of this world, that come to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, which God has hidden, predetermining it before the world for our glory; which none of the rulers of this world knew (for if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory). But as it is written, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard," nor has it entered into the heart of man, "the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God. For who among men knows the things of a man except the spirit of man within him? So also no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

The gospel is not designed to appeal to the mind of man. It must be spiritually revealed and empowered. It is the mystery of how God's love flows through the gospel that is revealed as we mature. It is as we come to know God in relationship that the Spirit of God unveils the mysteries.

Rom 11:32-36 For God has shut up all in unbelief, so that He might show mercy to all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out! For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who became His counselor? Or who first gave to Him, and it will be repaid to him? For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things; to Him be glory forever! Amen.

There is never a time when we have complete knowledge of God or fully understand the Logos. This will be reserved for the time when "we will know as we are known".

Eph 1:7-11 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace, which He caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and understanding; having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, for an administration of the fullness of times, to head up all things in Christ, both the things in Heaven, and the things on earth, even in Him, in whom also we have been chosen to an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His own will....

God's grace abounds toward us in the revelation of the mystery of the gospel.

1Co 8:1-3 But concerning the sacrifices to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if any man thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. But if any one loves God, he has been known of him.

But we don't know as much as we think we know.

Heb 4:11-13 Therefore let us labor to enter into that rest, lest anyone fall after the same example of unbelief. For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing apart of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight, but all things are naked and opened to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.

The Word of God is given (inpart) to reveal us, bringing "truth in the inward parts" -a self -revelation in the light of His glory that will humble us and allow us to be "transformed" and "conformed to the image of Christ" and "partakers of the divine nature". Jesus knows who we are. Before we can "rightly divide the word of truth" we ourselves must be rightly divided by the Sword of the Spirit.

Rev 3:17-21 Because you say, I am rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing, and do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, I counsel you to buy from Me gold purified by fire, so that you may be rich; and white clothing, so that you may be clothed, and so that the shame of your nakedness does not appear. And anoint your eyes with eye salve, so that you may see.

Joh 9:41 Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, We see. Therefore your sin remains.

 Brothers and sisters, stay humble...keep seeking.


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